2HOST $5 512MB Ram Xen VPS (LowEndBox)

Posted 984 days ago - Debian

I woke up this morning and started reading through Google Reader to see what appears to be an amazing offer posted on LowEndBox.com. The post claims a company called 2HOST is offering Xen based virtual private servers at $5/mo. How could anyone resist looking into this? Naturally, I did, and here's the scoop.

  • 512MB Ram / 1024MB Swap (More available)
  • 1 IP Address (Upgrade to 2 for another $5/mo)
  • 300GB Bandwidth per Month
  • Monthly or Yearly Payments Available
  • Xen Node with CentOS 5 & Debian 5 Available
  • "Dedicated, guaranteed, non-overbooked resources"
  • "100% gigabit powered screaming fast network"

Updates: [ 1 ] , [ 2 ] , [ 3 ]

They also say,

Our servers are all the latest dual socket, dual QuadCore Intel Xeon's with at least 32GB Fully-Buffered RAM, high performance 6x 450GB SAS 15,000RPM RAID10 storage. Utilizing SAS drives with 15,000RPM means better performance, long life and servergrade hard drives, ideal for virtualization

Ok, sounds great, right? So far, yes, until you attempt reading their non existent Acceptable Use Policy, Terms of Service, Service Level Agreement, or Privacy Policy, all of which return a 404 at the time of writing.

bigbrother ~:# curl -I http://www.2host.com/tos.html
HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:13:30 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from 0x95.net
Connection: close

bigbrother ~:# curl -I http://www.2host.com/aup.pdf
HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:13:38 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from 0x95.net
Connection: close

bigbrother ~:# curl -I http://www.2host.com/sla.pdf
HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:13:43 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from 0x95.net
Connection: close

bigbrother ~:# curl -I http://www.2host.com/pp.pdf
HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:13:50 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from 0x95.net
Connection: close

How can a company that claims,

"a team of professionals with years of industry experience, focusing on US-based virtualized and dedicated server solutions. The company is driven by reliability, customer satisfaction and value for money"

even be considered when their "Legal Documents" are non existent? Anyway, I used their contact form to send them this,

Good Morning,

After seeing the incredible $5/mo ($60/yr) VPS offer, I was eager to sign up for a year, but like any good consumer, I first decided to check out the TOS, AUP, SLA, an PP, all of which 404'd.

http://www.2host.com/tos.html

http://www.2host.com/aup.pdf

http://www.2host.com/sla.pdf

http://www.2host.com/pp.pdf

Can you please provide these documents?

Also, is the $5/mo good for the lifetime of the VPS? If I purchase for a year, and then renew after that year, will the price remain $5/mo ($60/yr)?

Thanks,

Guy Patterson

http://www.nullamatix.com/

I'll be sure to provide an update when and if they respond...

(Quick!) Update - 05/26/09 @ 07:45:00

Wow, within an hour of submitting my question, a member of 2HOST's staff responded with this,

Hello,

The prices are for the life of the account and will not increase in the future (for the services that you have ordered).

We reserve the right to change prices for non-ordered products or services. If you have a 1GB VPS and we increased the prices for our 1GB and 1.5GB plans, your price will stay the same, unless you wish to upgrade to 1.5GB.

As for the Legal documents, I will look into this further.

Best regards,

John Danielsen

----------------------------------------------
Ticket ID: #101XXX
Subject: Contact Form: WHT Offer
Status: Answered
Ticket URL: http://www.2host.com/support/viewticket.php?tid=xxxxxx&c=xxxxxxx
----------------------------------------------

I may be signing up for one of these after all. Just standing by for the legal docs at this point...

Update - 05/27/09 @ 07:10:00

Still no word on the status of 2HOST.com's "legal documents." Such a shame, the price is amazing. I probably wouldn't have a problem with any of their legal documents, but it's just nice to know what you're getting into before making any type of commitment. How is it possible to not have these documents available after five+ years of service? Incredible... Scam/Hoax?

Update - 05/29/09 @ 08:03:00

Looks like 2HOST's legal docs are finally available. After reading over the SLA, I couldn't help but notice the reference to "2HOS" instead of "2HOST." Minor issue, just struck me as odd..

"Hello,

The Legal Documents page has been updated. If it's still not working for you, please try clearing the browser cache. We appreciate your patience. Do let me know if you have any further questions.

Best regards,
John Danielsen"

After looking over their AUP, SLA, TOS, and PP, a server for $60/yr sounds pretty reasonable :]

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collapse Ricardo Dias # @ 2009-05-30 09:10:43 Subscribed Via Email

Just bought one! until now everything running with zero problems.

collapse Guy Patterson # @ 2009-06-02 05:46:01

Interesting. Which template did you go with? From what I've been told the Debian5 template is the only working image.

 
 
collapse JayAte # @ 2009-06-02 20:53:11

I bought one and it's working good. Currently running Debian 4 on it.

You have to log in using the ssh client in the control panel and make a new account. Login by the root account is disabled. You can still su to it, though. :)

collapse Guy Patterson # @ 2009-06-03 06:46:52

Well that's good. Root access via SSH isn't a good idea, but if you must, here's a one liner that should do the trick:

sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin no/PermitRootLogin yes/' \
/etc/ssh/sshd_config; /etc/init.d/ssh reload
 
 
collapse bob # @ 2009-06-03 23:45:25

I made an account with them. I found out that the real killer is the bandwidth. They advertise a 10 gigabit network but i am only getting speeds of up to 2 mbs (16 Mbps) max, while frequently getting around 130 kbs per connection.

 
collapse Orby # @ 2009-06-04 07:51:50 Subscribed Via Email

I made an account with them like the day after guypat found them.

So far the only images that worked for me are the Debian5 and the Debian4 ones, the others have little things wrong with them, the centos 5 image seemed to not decide if it wanted to pull i386 or x64_86 packages.
The fedora image just throws the VPS into single user mode and complains about missing drive, i fixed it up so it would boot but obviously they should of tested these before putting them as an option to use, not tried any other images yet apart from them. currently left mine on debian5.

The actual VPS was setup and running very quickly, rebuilding the VPS takes less than a minute so i guess there cant be very many people on their servers yet or they have some seriously good hardware.

The connection has been very good for me, i hit 11MB/s from them to a server in france, so thats overseas.. pretty good as normally US to Europe links suck.

The control panel is horrible to look at and not the best to use, seen much better but i've seen worse too, its about middle, its usable and has what you need.

Hopefully the VPS will continue to be good and i wont need to come back here and comment on how bad its got :)

collapse Ken # @ 2009-06-08 12:26:27 Subscribed Via Email

"the centos 5 image seemed to not decide if it wanted to pull i386 or x64_86 packages"

Obviously you have little/no experience with RHEL/CentOS on x86_64 platform. This is normal. You can remove i386 by running "yum remove glibc.i686" and editing your /etc/yum.repos/CentOS-Base file to "-exclude="*.i386". There are probably more efficient ways of doing this, but off the top of my head I know that will work.

collapse Orby # @ 2009-06-09 08:25:14 Subscribed Via Email

Obviously this cant be normal, as its not normally required on a *real* box so it shouldnt be required for a user to do on a VPS. (it doesnt do it on any other centos machine i've used so far, real or VPS.)

The image should already be setup and working for the end user not need fixing before using!.

So the image is still *broken* as it requires editing for it to work correctly which it shouldnt, the image is marked as x64_86, so it should already be set and ready to use, not need correcting.

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collapse Tyler # @ 2009-07-24 12:08:40 Subscribed Via Email

Did your servers take a while to set up? I bought 2, and are still no setup.

 
collapse Albeerto M. # @ 2009-07-26 10:20:44

Unbelievable - I signed up with their monthly payment option - now 2 weeks into the first month and my VPS still hasn't been set-up. None of my tickets have been replied to and I have already paid my $5. Its a rip-off as the service is a shambles.

 
collapse Ricardo Dias # @ 2009-07-26 14:49:10 Subscribed Via Email

For me only took about 5 hours to set-up. And working with no problems for 2 months now.

 
collapse joe # @ 2009-09-17 14:41:05 Subscribed Via Email

I dont know where to begin with these scumbags 2host. I paid $85 to have a vpn server installed on there vps. Then subscribed to there vps so i would never be late. Imagine my suprise that after few months my VPS was suddenly deleted losing all my data without an over due notice!

Then the support was slow and so extremely rude and nasty to me. They where horrible. The had deleted the vps over 3 weeks ago and I forgot I was still subscribed. There billing was completely messed up. Saw the subscription payment go through and demanded a refund as it had not even been on!

Those lowlifes didnt even reply to me they are scum. AVOID 2 host they are scammers and thief.

I will be taking further legal action against them for sure!

collapse Guy Patterson # @ 2009-09-17 17:10:45

Thanks a lot for taking the time to share your experience with 2host. Please keep us updated with any progress as your case progresses. I hope they'll do the right thing.

-Guy

 
 
collapse Kanga # @ 2009-09-30 12:44:32 Subscribed Via Email

Well my 2Host experience has been different. I have 3 $5 VPS's The first took a few days to setup but has been a real workhorse for me infact I was using it as a dev VPS but now just moved the entire site over after near 3 months with zero down time ( of course I also have backups just incase ) the most recent VPS took only 8 hours for them to prepare it and now that they brought back the control panel I re-images it to Ubuntu 9.04 64bit and its been very reliable apart form one day where for 5 hours or so the site was dead slow.

For the price you pay its a great service nad for every complainer there are probably 5-10 people who are happy.

 
collapse djStelios # @ 2009-10-03 17:56:45

Stay away of them. I was lucky I had a refund from Paypal, after a claim. They don't even bother to answer at Paypal!!

Just for your info take a look here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=863204

 
collapse Jon # @ 2010-03-10 15:18:21 Subscribed Via Email

Until now they are the best VPS provider I have dealt with.

They have new offers including 512MB XEN based VPS with 1TB traffic for $5/m..

At this moment I have a few VPS with them and all orders are setup instantly and automatically after payment.

Support response is usually within a few hours and really helpful.

They also added a few members to the staff. Tim Croiden told me that, I believe he is one of the owners of 2host.

Cheers.

 

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